Twins and karma
[2nd President and Spiritual Head: the Ramakrishna Centre of South Africa]
DAILY READINGS
From Mother Radha's recordings of Swamiji
791
Devotees talking to and asking Swamiji about twins
Swamiji: Twins are not really the same. There must be some sort of difference, even if it is a twin. If you look at each one's horoscope it is not the same. If you take the thumb print of each it is not the same.
Swami S [young Swami]: I asked Swami Nisreyasananda if twins are born and the stars predict that somebody born at this time will become great what will be the case. He says, 'No, twins are born twenty minutes apart so even a minute time will change the whole horoscope.'
Swamiji: Yes, but you see that's another trouble about 'born'. You see science has changed a lot of things, my darling boy. If this man was supposed to be born at ten o'clock, how about caesarean birth? If I gave you a natural birth you would have been tomorrow at three o'clock but the doctor in his wisdom thought to cut the stomach now.
Devotee: I believe that the horoscope should be calculated from the time of conception rather.
Swamiji: What you say is also true. Our scriptures show that the day it germinates is important. But the astrologists must have also worked it out in a broader sense. If it germinates today its nature will be this and it takes more or less so long to be born. So also you can do it from here or from there.
Swami S [young Swami]: I asked Swami Nisreyasananda what if a prince is born in a palace and at the same time in another house a sudra [person of the working-serving class] is born; now if the stars predict that the prince will become great what will happen to the sudra who is living in a poor house?
Swamiji: The one will become a king and the other will also be a king. But the one will definitely become a king in a way that he will supersede the sudra gang [group].
Suppose we say at the same time a hen is born and a cock is born. We can say the cock will be strong and the hen will be strong. The hen may not be as strong as the cock but in the hen category the hen will be stronger and in the cock category the cock will be stronger.
Devotee: The horoscope is only an indicator of what the man's karmic state was before . . .
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